I've Been Reading
One thing I note in her book is the, almost comic-book, quality of her characters. Like another writer I don't always agree with but enjoy the writing of, Robert Heinlein, her main characters are super-intelligent, almost Nietzshceistic, over-achievers. I see a sequence of flow to individualism from the truth to the absurd with Heinlein closest to the truth, Rand a bit further out, and Nietzsche being all the way out at the point where the extreme left and right become the indistinguishable. The characters are just unrealistic. There are great men and women but supermen of the sort who appear in these novels are a myth. All men have weaknesses and often the greatest of men have the greatest weaknesses. (Also I note that Heinlein's supermen still had a sense of humor while Rand's work has very little real humor - unless you count sarcasm as humor; maybe Rand, for her intelligence, failed to understand humor.)
I did enjoy the scenes where the "looters" were talking amongst themselves and, speaking in private, how ruthless, cold-blooded and uncaring they really were. As one Dr. Ferris (one of the looters) said "We are after power and we mean it." Most modern leftists know that their policies will never work but they don't care; it's nothing but a path to power for them. If the state has total power and they are the state then they have what they want. The state controls all and they control the state.
Another disturbing thing is her reference to Robin Hood. Now the historical Robin Hood was nothing but a common bandit around whom air of romance was developed. Now the mythical Robin Hood was, in my opinion, a right-wing hero. You see in those days the rich and the government were one and the same and they got rich through excessive taxation. The Robin Hood of the romantic legends brought about the first tax refund by stealing from the taxman and giving it back to the tax-payer. Of course that's not how the historical Robin Hood functioned, but that's another story.
My biggest concern is her arrogant Atheism. Without God it is impossible to set moral absolutes. You may speak of what is good for the masses but why should I give a rip about the masses? You may speak of earning everything you have, as Rand does, but why should I if I can do it some other way? You can speak of the survival of humanity as the root of morality -as Heinlein does - but why should I care about what happens to humanity after I die? Morality requires a foundation otherwise it becomes meaningless. I recognize all of these things because there is Something bigger than me, or all of humanity, that has set an end and purpose to it all; you can choose to ignore or reject God but that has a terrible price. You can seek a moral foundation but without God there really isn't one.
I furthermore wonder if she realized how close she was to the Protestant Work Ethic which was born of Christian principles.
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They're over achievers all right. Start building a motor that runs on static and defies several laws of physics and you've got an over achiever.
Also look at how close she was to the labor theory of value.
In fact when you get down to it she had a lot of the qualities of a Marxist.
She just substituted the fairy tale John Galt for the politburo.
Ayn Rand is interesting for one reading and for some discussion. That's about it.
BZ
I furthermore wonder if she realized how close she was to the Protestant Work Ethic which was born of Christian principles.
Odd that you should mention that!
Just today, a student asked me for some info about Ayn Rand. I told him, almost word for word, what you said above.
With the exception of only a few, most objectivists I've met or chatted with online are so arrogant about their atheism. I find that off-putting and contradictory to objectivism's strong position on individual rights.
Someone else is welcome to his atheism, but I am a follower of Christ.
Many bloggers are reading Rand, it seems. I can't find the copy I read too many years ago to admit here!
A friend's about finished with his and will bring it over.
I will hope to find this post when I'm reading it to remind me as your input's always so spot-on, Shoprat, thanks.
I always thought Lauren Bacall would have been a perfect Dagney Taggart if they'd made the film..,.I do remember that.
You nailed it, Shoprat. Rand's characters were not human because she denied her own humanness as most athesists do. She was all mind and no soul.
z, have you seen the Fountainhead?
How do you feel about Rand's permissive attitude towards rape?
i tried reading rand once...have to admit, i only made about half way through the book! and have never had the urge to pick it up and restart or finish it. sometimes her stuff comes off as overly simple, then all of a sudden she was way over my head...difficult reading at best...
Randism is better than socialism, for sure. Most of the worst mass murderers since the invention of socialist have been socialist.
I defy you to find one of these genocidal monsters who was a Randist or anything like it.
There's something about socialism that inspires people to "improve" society by butchering a large proportion of the people in it.
dmarks One of the advantages of Rand is that she does value the individual, but she follows Darwin to his inescapable conclusion, which is Social Darwinism.
d_m I didn't find any passages particularly difficult but I did find much of it to be BORING.
Ducky I didn't see Galt so much as politburo as I saw him as a Walter Reuther like character. A man who took a valid complaint to an answer that created all new problems. Also if we demand that fiction to stick to devices we know are possible what would become of Star Trek?
PJC you're right and she talks so much about spirit yet denies its true existence except as a metaphor.
z It is a good read provided you read it with a mind that is both critical and open. She has a lot of very good points and a lot of nonsense.
AOW a humble Atheist is almost, but not quite, an oxymoron. I remember reading a speech that Isaac Asimov gave as he received some sort of humanist award and he was actually proud of his arrogance and said that humility is a false virtue.
bz agreed.
I read it so long ago I don't even remember it, Shoprat. All I remember is that I read it. I don't know that I want to read it again. I've had about all I can stand from atheists already!
A movie version is supposedly in the works.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480239/
But I can't image Hollywood getting it right.
I look at the 'in general' aspects of Rand's body work...
She illustrated that socialist-communism did (does) not work...but the default alternative for her had no moral high ground...
Excellent post-shop-rat...
C-CS
..body of work..
Atlas was a good read but John Galt's speech went on way too long. If I wrote it I would have changed a few things but it is what it is as they say.
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