Wednesday, November 05, 2008

History Repeats Itself

In the mid-70s Americans were sick of Richard Nixon and anyone associated with him. The results were that a relatively honest moderate named Jerry Ford was, rightly or wrongly, tarred by the Watergate scandal that he had nothing to do with. The Democrats had a "historic opportunity" to redefine American politics forever.

They botched it.

They nominated a highly charismatic, but inept man named Jimmy Carter as president. Inflation, unemployment, and loss of national prestige (all to much greater degree than we have had recently) were rampant and it appeared to some that America was going to go down for good. Jimmy Carter's response was to tell us that America was going to need to accept a smaller role in the world and then he lectured us on malaise. Inflation and unemployment were driven by his effort to artificially raise peoples' incomes by mandating raises through minimum wage laws and letting the unions run rampant, a precursor to redistribution.

America fired him.

The next Democratic President was a competent sleaze. He was first, foremost and almost entirely a politician. America did relatively well because he recognized that corporate America paid the bills and that if they weren't making money nobody was. His Democratic Leadership Council recognized the importance of business being profitable and he governed accordingly.

A new Democrat has been elected. Is he Bill Clinton again or is he Jimmy Carter? My money is on Jimmy Carter. Economic collapse is the inescapable long-term conclusion of simple redistribution. (Any possible, but unlikely, early improvements is comparable to avoiding famine by eating your seedcorn only to starve later when there is nothing left to plant. )We should have learned that with the great society, but the lie of Socialism is so seductive that people refuse to learn that it will NEVER work. Socialism will work when men can fly by flapping their arms; it is impossible.

I hope I'm wrong but I am certain that I am right. Jimmy Carter is getting his second term in the person of Barak Obama.

Now he could prove me wrong by avoiding redistribution and governing like Clinton did but I really don't think he will. If he governs from the center, which is to the right of his voting record, he'll do OK, but I don't think he is pragmatic enough to do that.

I predict that the GOP and conservatives will do very well in 10 and 12.


Blogger David Wyatt said...

I agree with you sir, except I might add that the world is a much more dangerous place now than it was even under Carter. God Bless.

7:36 PM  
Blogger Pasadena Closet Conservative said...

Mr. Obama wanted the job, he can have it. Soon he'll crawl back to Jeremiah Wright for spiritual guidance because after his first transitional briefing at the White House, Barry will realize he has bitten off way, way, way more than he can chew.

After our nation begins teetering on the brink, there will be a new Conservative movement in America as people realize that this sweeping new Liberal/Socialist movement was a bad thing.

11:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I predict:

Immediate amnesty for 20 million or more illegal aliens who will be registered to vote and who will vote democrat thereby keeping the rethugnican party in the minority for the next 50 years.

1:02 AM  
Blogger christian soldier said...

Elitist socialism never works --you are so right!!
The Carter years gave us a weakened position that brought on the hostage situation that was neutralized when Reagan was elected...I pray that a situation of that ilk or worse doesn't happen during B. Hussein Obama's term...

1:04 AM  
Blogger NEO, SOC said...

Excellent post shoprat! But I have to curse you!!!

I have spent way too much time trying not to remember Carter and you shoved him right back into my memory. Why I oughta!!!!! LOL!

But how true are you about the similarities! And you only addressed on side of it! What about Obama's anti-Israel stance? I tell you that we may be pulling any supported for Israel under the forceful encouragement of necessary peace with her neighbors. Our president-elect will put further pressures on Israel and now we will see what true anti-Semitism is really like!!!

6:11 AM  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Anonymous's prediction above is dire. Mine is less so.

I predict 8 years under Obama's administration -- unless we are horrifically attacked by Islamic terrorists here in America. By a horrific attack, I mean one which makes 9/11 look like nothing, an attack which hits multiple locations throughout America.

Obama's supporters will support him no matter what, except if such an attack occurs.

No way can Obama keep all his promises of change. Already, the mainstream media is attempting to prepare Obama supporters for that fact, never mind that the same media never mentioned any such possibility during the campaign.

8:19 AM  
Blogger Tim said...

Come on guys! Let's all join the team and get on board for the big win. Don't be all bitter and clingin' to those guns & religion.

SR- how is what w. just did with the banks not socialism? He just went right in and GAVE THEM OUR MONEY. ($2,800 for each person in this country. for my family of four that's over $11,000 of MY MONEY GOING TO RICH GUYS)Did he bailout the homeowner? Heck no! He bailed out the RICH GUYS. The CEO of WA MU was on the job for 16 days and walked away with 50 MILLION DOLLARS. I think you are fine with socialism for the limosine class. If you are against govt. handouts, why not refuse to cash that unemployment check?

Here is why the Republicans lost. They are no longer the party of limited govt. they are the party of expand the govt. for no good reason, run up hugh debts, tell me whom I can sleep with and when, tap my phone, monitor my library book usage, and stick a tracking device up my butt.
The fear mongering is what finally did it. All the "the sky is falling" hysteria and using terrorism played to our fear and not to our hopes.
You all can stand around and hate but the rest of us are going to roll up our sleeves and clean up the hugh mess that was made over the last 8 years.

8:48 AM  
Blogger shoprat said...

to a point you're right, but I never said that I approved of everything W did, in fact he annoyed me quite a few times. But the times he annoyed me were the times he acted the least like a Republican. We need to return to our roots and we won't be doing that under Obama.

There is no win under Obama. You are in for a quick and severe disappointment.

8:59 AM  
Blogger Gayle said...

Your last comment here, Shoprat, is it in a nutshell: "We need to return to our roots!"

We need to quit electing people who are not true conservatives. We wouldn't have returned to our roots under McCain either, and I think that was the problem in a nutshell. The Republican Party was so worried about picking up moderate and independent votes that we elected a man who constantly harped about how he was and always had been willing to reach across the aisle. I admore McCain for his patriotism and his sacrifice to our country, but he has never been a true conservative. The Republicans elected him out of fear and they screwed up. I say "they" because he wasn't the first choice of most of us conservative bloggers. We backed him because he evidently was the choice of most Republicans. We must return to our core values and beliefs and stick by them!

9:14 AM  
Blogger Tim said...

If you want me to vote republican then DO what you say you will do.

1)No more defecit spending. They promised to balance the budget but never did. It took Clinton (granted, with a republican congress) to do it.

2) don't just get out of my wallet, but get out of my bedroom, too. You decry social engineering from the left, but republicans are worse. They care more about the unborn than the people who are already here. Stem cells (when they are going to destroy these embryos anyway) could give us the answer to many medical problems.

3)Stop being so warmongering. This is not what Jesus would do. They may be our enemies, but if we won't talk to them we will eventually be fighting them.

4) Stop beating up on Cuba when we roll out the "Red" carpet to China.

these are just some of the issues where the Elephants are out to lunch on and that's why they got their asses handed to them on Tuesday. I think Gayle (BTW, I read your post election blog entry and thought that you were a great sport) is right on target. One thing that I hope is not a core value of republicans is hate. We are all Americans. BHO is your president just as much as W. has been mine. Two things worked against McCain Palin: Hate and Fear. Obama had a message of hope, and that is why he won. Will he be another Carter? Let's hope not. I hope he will be another JFK, or at least another Bill Clinton.

The last 8 years have brought this country to the brink. The republicans did it. Admit it and own it. Republicans own this legacy.

11:06 AM  
Blogger NEO, SOC said...

You think Obama is gong to spend less? They will spend more of our money and give it to people who don't work for their pay. The economy will worsen under Obama and the Dummakratic Posse, but they will blame the Bush Administration.

Stem Cells? Over 75 million children have been aborted since Roe v Wade. Just one of those children could have been the answer to many of life's ills had we let them live.

Warmongering? Who brought us to war in World War I & II? Democrats! Who dropped the A-Bomb? Democrats! Who initiated the draft? Democrats! Russia turned their missiles on Poland. Russia took how long to pull their troops out of Georgia? Muslim militants are killing Christians and when we speak to them, they say back off! So, talking is finished!

And to insinuate that Jesus would not have taken this course, shows your lack of knowledge of who He really is! Jesus is fully God and fully Man. His motives, His standards are equal with the Father and the Holy Spirit. So, when the children of Israel were moving back into the land God gave them, Jesus sanctioned the slaughtering of the wicked people. Wrath of God can also be translated as the Wrath of Jesus or the Wrath of the Holy Spirit.

Agreed on the issue of Cuba/China.

The last 16 years have been bad for this country. Clinton didn't handle his business, so we suffered/suffer for it. The failure of the country is not solely on the shoulders of the Republican party. The Democrats played a big part as well.

11:54 AM  
Blogger Tim said...

Hey Neo, one out of four is a start!

1:01 PM  
Blogger shoprat said...

to be blunt, Bush governed like a Democrat-Lite and that's why things did not go well. He failed to secure our sovereignty and protect the border. He failed to secure the dollar (which is at the root of our economic problems.)

McCain vs Obama was Democrat-Lite vs Democrat, or a head-cold vs Ebola. We need a real GOP who will stand up to the redistributionists, statists, fascists and socialists and their cheering section (the MSM).

I am showing more courtesy to Obama than a lot of the Democrats were showing to Bush. I am not calling him a criminal and demanding he be tried. I am not calling him a retard. (There are prominent Democrats doing all of the above.) I am saying that he believes in a system that has proven disastrous in every nation that has tried it.

3:02 PM  
Blogger benning said...

Obama is a radical Leftist. He will 'govern' from the Far Left. We're never going to be able to struggle back from this sort of mess until we learn to educate the electorate as Reagan did.

Economics is not a candy store.

5:25 PM  
Blogger Z said...

I'll be praying we're still all safe in 2012.

5:28 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

History not only repeats itself, we now know that it also mumbles and drools.

I hope BO keeps a teleprompter near by.

10:43 AM  
Blogger Ducky's here said...

Redistribution avoided? Clinton immediately put a tax on the wealthiest and we managed to get out of the second Raygun recession that Bush I inherited.

Get real or get raped by laissez-faire. Your choice but it does surprise me that the ones who have really been hosed by this economy are its staunch defenders.

12:22 PM  
Blogger Ducky's here said...

tim, no deficit spending?

During a massive recession? Are you serious?

Fine but when you, shoprat and neo soc lose what employment you have don't start whining about "redistribution".

12:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is a true conservative? You want to keep things as they are - as they were? How far back should we go? Slavery? Children working in mines? Shall we stop providing free education for all? Face it people - society is progressive. Our lives and lifestyles have improved over time - mostly due to government regulation. Sure - government is fallible and there needs to be checks and balances, but casting any attempt to improve millions of lives through healthcare reform as radical socialism is a bit of a stretch. What is the conservative Christian attitude to a working man who loses his job due to health problems and then loses his healthcare due to not having a job?

BTW .. 8 years of compassionate conservatism has brought this country to it's knees.

2:28 PM  
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