Denial
I could post dozens of links but it's pretty clear without them that some are in denial.
I have read in newspaper comments and some blog comments that the Scott Brown won because the Obama was not left-wing enough.
Check out the comments from this column in the tabloid New York Times.
The very first couple of comments I read are repeated here.
The fantasy here is that Obama is, or ever was, a liberal. A generation ago, before the huge shift to the right that occurred in American politics, he would have been considered a moderate Republican, a category that no longer exists.
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How old are you, 12? People didn't vote for Brown because Obama is too liberal. They voted for him because Obama isn't liberal ENOUGH. Look at the negative poll numbers on health care reform. A solid 25% say the health care plan doesn't go far enough.
One day, when you're all grown up, you'll get it. (That is, if maintaining your job doesn't demand that you stay in right-wing denial.)
I wonder what dimension these people live in. This is total denial of reality.
I just shake my head in disbelief. I know that there are some who are so far to the left that they have left their brains behind but I am sure that they are few in number. I remember many times in the library reading a narcotic (ie sleep inducing) article in The Nation in which they insisted that the left would win if they only would run real socialists because that's what the masses really wanted. It's like that old story of a newspaper reporter who couldn't believe that Nixon slaughtered McGovern so badly because she didn't know one person who voted for Nixon. All that story really told was how narrow her social circle was. I know a few people who still support Obama but there seems to be fewer of them every week.
I answered this page on Facebook. Now please note that the young people and computer savvy people are supposed to be his biggest supporters. Now look at what the supposedly young and progressive Facebook crowd is saying.
That is a big amount. Now the numbers could narrow some but I don't expect that gap to come anywhere near closing.
What really happened? Gagdad Bob said it best:
My friends, this is the moment when we said NO! to the dork farces who insist that you can fill the economic swimming pool by taking water from the deep end and pouring it into the shallow end. This was the moment -- yes, the delicious moment -- when we came together as a nation and made Tingles Matthews cry on national TV. And folks, it doesn't get any better than that.
The guy has a way with words.
I have read in newspaper comments and some blog comments that the Scott Brown won because the Obama was not left-wing enough.
Check out the comments from this column in the tabloid New York Times.
The very first couple of comments I read are repeated here.
The fantasy here is that Obama is, or ever was, a liberal. A generation ago, before the huge shift to the right that occurred in American politics, he would have been considered a moderate Republican, a category that no longer exists.
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How old are you, 12? People didn't vote for Brown because Obama is too liberal. They voted for him because Obama isn't liberal ENOUGH. Look at the negative poll numbers on health care reform. A solid 25% say the health care plan doesn't go far enough.
One day, when you're all grown up, you'll get it. (That is, if maintaining your job doesn't demand that you stay in right-wing denial.)
I wonder what dimension these people live in. This is total denial of reality.
I just shake my head in disbelief. I know that there are some who are so far to the left that they have left their brains behind but I am sure that they are few in number. I remember many times in the library reading a narcotic (ie sleep inducing) article in The Nation in which they insisted that the left would win if they only would run real socialists because that's what the masses really wanted. It's like that old story of a newspaper reporter who couldn't believe that Nixon slaughtered McGovern so badly because she didn't know one person who voted for Nixon. All that story really told was how narrow her social circle was. I know a few people who still support Obama but there seems to be fewer of them every week.
I answered this page on Facebook. Now please note that the young people and computer savvy people are supposed to be his biggest supporters. Now look at what the supposedly young and progressive Facebook crowd is saying.
That is a big amount. Now the numbers could narrow some but I don't expect that gap to come anywhere near closing.
What really happened? Gagdad Bob said it best:
My friends, this is the moment when we said NO! to the dork farces who insist that you can fill the economic swimming pool by taking water from the deep end and pouring it into the shallow end. This was the moment -- yes, the delicious moment -- when we came together as a nation and made Tingles Matthews cry on national TV. And folks, it doesn't get any better than that.
The guy has a way with words.
posted by shoprat at 7:24 AM
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Shop, I really think it IS an alternate universe from which they come. They didn't get the message then and they don't get it now. I still go back to what my high school "civics" teacher said in the 60s: "Democrats don't win elections; Republicans lose them."
BZ
Let the spin begin...
yeah one of my favorite "check the left" sites is huffington....it's just crammed full of libs trying to justify the scott win...i read everything from "it's because he's white" to "it just because coakley was a poor choice of candidate"....
as you say, should be interesting to watch over the next few days, weeks...
I always take a 'wait and see' attitude...
and..speaking of a Huffington ,,,
We had her husband foisted upon us - here in CA - promoted by the CRP-GOP-
when we thought Dannemeyer was the only Republican running...
He beat Dannemeyer-
FEINSTIEN beat Huffington!!!
You have the GOP-CRP to thank for Diane...
SO-now that the excitement is over concerning Scott Brown's win...I'll 'wait and see'....
C-CS
I see this occasionally, people who think Obama is a centrist. How far left do you have to be to think Obama is in the middle?
People didn't vote for Brown because Obama is too liberal. They voted for him because Obama isn't liberal ENOUGH. Look at the negative poll numbers on health care reform. A solid 25% say the health care plan doesn't go far enough.
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True that. Anyone who considers Obama a "liberal" (let alone a socialist which is absolutely an asinine idea) is simply way too far gone and needs to broaden his outlook a bit.
By the way shoprat, I voted for Brown.
I see this occasionally, people who think Obama is a centrist. How far left do you have to be to think Obama is in the middle?
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No Chuck, how much of a deluded Libertarian do you have to be to think he's a "liberal" (whatever that is).
Duck, I actually thought of you when I wrote that because you have said this before.
Just to give you your due, define a lib for me. Show me how Obama is not a liberal nor a socialist.
From the 70s:
"Disco is to music as Etch-A-Sketch is to art."
I say:
"Obama is to Centrism as my ass is to ventriloquism."
BZ
BZ- You have been talking out of your ass for a long time (just jokin', got nothin but love for ya).
Obama is left, but not to the extreme that the right says. Let's review: Staying the course on Iraq and Towelhead shithole land, supporting the whole Bush bank bailout. Republican Sec of Denfense and Treasury sec. etc, etc.
The only bone he threw to the working class was saving the union jobs at GM and Chrysler. And maybe I'm being local politics here, but if they had died Michigan would be devastated, so I for one am glad he did.
I at first liked Obamacare, but soured on it with all the Liberman, Landreaux, Nelson backroom dirty dealing. Like Ducky, I wanted a public option, or at least the 55 year old Medicare buyin. As it is now, I'm not happy with it and hope something can be salvaged ou of it. If Olympia Snowe can't be persuaded to vote for something I think it's doomed.
“The same thing that swept Scott Brown into office swept me into office, people are angry and they are frustrated."
The above is the world's largest understatement. The below is NObama showing his ignorance and his arrogance---AGAIN
"Not just because of what’s happened in the last year or two years but what’s happened over the last eight years.”
Yup! When all else fails---blame Bush!
Joe
According to his books, President BO thinks like a communist while he talks like a socialist. He acts like a confused prepschool student.
Tim: hand me my kazoo, please.
BZ
Sorry about not responding, but had another crisis with my father. Things are not "death is immediate" but he gave us a scare.
Shoprat, I was wondering if your lack of posting was due to your father, and I do want to add that you all are still in my prayers.
To those who do not think Obama is a socialist, I ask why then does he surround himself with socialists and communists? I do recall Obama as a candidate saying look at who he surrounds himself with to know what kind of leader he would be...what else are we to think he is??
Beth- Yeah, Gates & Gieghtner are real commies...
There is a clear inability to look objectively at events from anyone who is extreme in their views; both liberals and conservatives alike. Those who are expressing the point of view you write about are as blind as a Jim Jones Kool-Aid drinker. From a Bostonian perspective:
"...They [voters] don’t see the point of an expensive new health care bill that threatens to damage the health care industry here, disrupt service to Medicare recipients and tax us all - especially when we already insure 97.4 percent of our people.
They don’t see the point of paying higher and higher energy costs, when the world’s pollution is not our fault.
They don’t see the point of growing the deficit so that our children and grandchildren will be paying for today’s policy mistakes - including a $787 stimulus bill that didn’t.
Most of all they are simply tired of the kind of Washington arrogance that says “don’t worry, we know what’s best for you.”
Voters of Massachusetts wanted to take back the power that has been so sorely abused. Yesterday they did..."
(link: http://news.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/editorials/view/20100120a_revolution_begins/ )
What is interesting is that the younger folks who are eating and drinking from the liberal table of college professors are becoming more aware and, as a result, moving away from the extreme left. The critical thinking intended to attack conservatism is also being applied to the far left Socialist/Marxist ideology that is pushing folks away from freedom and liberty to utter dependence on a centralized government. Perhaps there is still hope.
And as a reminder Beth, remember Obama's response to the question posed by Joe the Plumber? A very clear indication that redistribution of wealth is totally acceptable. Marx said it best:
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need..."
Indeed, Obama shows very clear similarities to the Marxist ideology.
thank you for the up-date on your father---angels watching over you and yours...
C-CS
I wonder what dimension these people live in. This is total denial of reality.
Typical leftists.
Plus, so many have been sucked into the cult of BHO.
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