George McGovern Backstabs the Union?
McGovern sticks 'knife in the back' of unions
That was the headline of an editorial letter from by AFL-CIO official Brent Gillette in today's Detroit News. What did that one-time hero of the left do that was so bad?
He told them to "Live with less."
When I first started this blog I was saying that "We have a choice. Lose something or lose everything". The heady days of the past were great for the people that lived them but they reached unsustainable levels which, blame the union or the company -- doesn't really matter, we can no longer sustain. $20+/hr jobs with generous benefits are a thing of the past for unskilled labor and that is simple reality. Pointing out reality is not a knife in the back.
Mr. Gillette also wants more schools and fewer jails. So do I but unfortunately we have a real need for jails.
He wants more books and fewer arsenals. I would like that too but unfortunately we have a real need for arsenals as well.
He is entitled to his opinion but I don't think too much of it.
That was the headline of an editorial letter from by AFL-CIO official Brent Gillette in today's Detroit News. What did that one-time hero of the left do that was so bad?
He told them to "Live with less."
When I first started this blog I was saying that "We have a choice. Lose something or lose everything". The heady days of the past were great for the people that lived them but they reached unsustainable levels which, blame the union or the company -- doesn't really matter, we can no longer sustain. $20+/hr jobs with generous benefits are a thing of the past for unskilled labor and that is simple reality. Pointing out reality is not a knife in the back.
Mr. Gillette also wants more schools and fewer jails. So do I but unfortunately we have a real need for jails.
He wants more books and fewer arsenals. I would like that too but unfortunately we have a real need for arsenals as well.
He is entitled to his opinion but I don't think too much of it.
posted by shoprat at 9:47 PM
10 Comments:
Unfortunately the Union mentality for decades has been "no retreat on anything", and it's killed them, though they can't see that.
If the rank and file actually looked at what the German, Japanese and Korean carmakers who are hear on paying, and giving in benefits, along with the job security, they'd probably vote to disband.
It's funny, the only two foriegn owned carmakers to move production here who've had problems are VW and Mitsubishi. Oddly, they are the two the UAW got to unionize.
"He's entitled to his opinion but I don't think much of it."
Me neither! :(
There is also a Subaru plant in Indiana, CP, and they are not having problems because of the UAW.
I read this editorial in the Oakland Press on Sunday and agree with him.
I think that it is not so much the 20+$/hr as it is the reitrement, healthcare, and jobs bank that is killing the US automakers. Pay is comprable in the transplants, but they have a relatively young workforce and are not really dealing with the costs of retirements etc.
I don't think that always taking it out of the little guy's hide is the answer. I'd like to see the big boys "learning to live with less"
My father worked in the IBEW for 35 years and the union did everything they could for the last 2 years of working to get him to quit to loose his benefits. They demoted him, put him on the crappiest jobs they could find. Didn't work though, my Dad was in the Air Force and stuck it out until the end... even retired early and is still collecting his well-earned pension and health benefits.
When he retired, he often talked about how the "new guys" were getting nothing compared to him and would probably never see what the Unions used to offer.
"These Times They Are A Changin'" he used to say.
I had a wonderful childhood living in a neighborhood where one in three homes was an auto worker. It's what we were all going to be. sadly non of us got to work for Olds, now gone as well. Those that watch tv might have seen the show That 70's Show. That was us right down to my friends Vista Cruisor. Sigh.
cp If they had retreated a little they might still have their jobs today.
gayle great minds ... :-)
tim Yes the guys at the top should also take a cut, but that does not vindicate the hourlys.
Pam I knew a man whose widowed mother had similar problems with the Teamsters when they tried to deny her her husband's pension.
tom c A lot of my friends had fathers at GM as well.
Somebody will have to take a cut, or eventually it will be forced. Unfortunatly, it will probably be the workers that absorb the majority of it.
Hands off of my arsenal.
And my books, for that matter!
Yah, my husband worked for a steel union and made awesome money. Then the company went bankrupt and it took us 5 yrs. to recover financially. I blame the Union for asking for such unreasonable wages and benefits that it cost everyone their jobs.
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