Seeing Alice
I saw the movie Alice in Wonderland this afternoon and really enjoyed it. The idea of an almost-grown-up Alice returning to Wonderland was an interesting twist. The story seemed to draw almost as much from Through the Looking Glass as it did from Alice in Wonderland. Some of the sets were over the top though, but that's Tim Burton's style. I did find the behavior of the White Queen distracting as the way she moved around was supposed to be flowing and whimsical but wound up looking just plain silly. Also I noticed some of the creatures were lifted right out of the original Disney animation; the talking flower garden was identical in the appearance and personalities of the various flowers.
I spoke of Tim Burton's style when it comes to sets and imagery. He used similar styles in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. It worked in that movie but he is also going to be directing the Johnny Depp version of Dark Shadows and that kind of concerns me. Part of what made Dark Shadows work is the juxtaposition of the seemingly normal town of Collinsport and the supernatural evils that hide there. I just hope he doesn't use surrealistic sets in that movie.
I spoke of Tim Burton's style when it comes to sets and imagery. He used similar styles in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. It worked in that movie but he is also going to be directing the Johnny Depp version of Dark Shadows and that kind of concerns me. Part of what made Dark Shadows work is the juxtaposition of the seemingly normal town of Collinsport and the supernatural evils that hide there. I just hope he doesn't use surrealistic sets in that movie.
posted by shoprat at 1:24 AM
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I was vaguely interested in seeing this movie but I have a hard rule in that I do not see any movies with Johnny Depp in them. There are few that hate America more than him.
Thanks for the recommendation, Shoprat...
I hope things are well with you and your family.
Burton's is a pretty established style. No matter what he does it will be long on visual flair to the possible point of excess.
I wouldn't expect any radical changes in the future.
Too bad, Chuck, Depp is a very good actor. Hasn't picked his scripts as well as he might but still a very good actor.
Chuck that is silly that you feel that way. Depp lives in France. So what? He's a really good actor. I loved Charlie and the chocolate factory. I'll wait til AIWL is on cable though. It's sad that your politics carry into every facet of your life like that. I ask you all: how do rightwingers stay so whipped up, day after day? God your blood pressure! Good for you SR taking time to just chill and enjoy the fun things in life and not daily railing against something that you cannot change. Hey, when's the last time you were at Frankenmuth? Have you seen the silent night church?
Tim, so if Rush or Beck were in a movie it would not be a problem for you? I don't care where Depp lives, he's an anti-American piece of shit and I'm not supporting his hatred with my money.
Chuck ? Sounds like you're the one filled with hatred. Yes, I'd see a movie with Rush or Glenn Beck in it if it was something I'd be interested in seeing. But since they are not film actors I doubt that will ever happen. They spew a lot more hatred than Johnny Depp. I think the worst I've ever heard him say is that he's raising his kids in France because he doesn't want them exposed to the violent culture here in TV and movies. Hell, I'd live in France if I was rich. Some of the best skiing in thw world, French Cuisine, I could think of a lot worse places to live.
Tim, you haven't been listening to Johnny Depp very closely.
Finally, I like this constant spewing from the left about right-wing hatred. In my original post I made a simple statement. I was not attacking Depp, I simply expressed an opinion that I did not like him because of his political views. You are the one that went on the attack. But that's okay because it's only the right that's angry, right? You guys are so full of shit.
" he's an anti-American piece of shit and I'm not supporting his hatred with my money."
All I said was that I thought it was silly to hate an actor because he said something you didn't like. Now you're saying I'm full of Shit? Would you be this rude face to face? I hardly attacked you.
Facebook Twitter Yahoo Buzz E-mail Johnny Depp has denied inflammatory comments about the United States attributed to him in the German magazine Stern, saying they were taken out of context and that he was misquoted, Reuters reports.
The "Pirates of the Caribbean" star was quoted in Stern this week as saying America was "like a dumb puppy" and a "broken toy," and that he would urge his French-based children to explore it and then "get out."
In an apology issued by his publicist, the Kentucky-born Depp said his comment was referring to America being a young, growing nation compared to Europe. He added that he and his family now live in the south of France because his wife, singer Vanessa Paradis, is French.
"I am an American. I love my country and have great hopes for it," Depp's statement reads. "It is for this reason that I speak candidly and sometimes critically about it. I have benefited greatly from the freedom that exists in my country and for this I am eternally grateful."
He went on to say, "My deepest apologies to those who were offended, affected or hurt by this insanely twisted deformation of my words and intent."
Tim, to answer your question, yes.
I am not going to justify to you how I feel about Depp.
Finally, go back and read your initial comment to me. You went on a rant about how angry the right is when all I did was make a simple statement that I did not like Depp.
I am sick to death of this constant whining from the left that the right is mean spirited when we are getting this from everywhere.
This also lends credence to the notion that only the left has freedom of speech. We have a steady stream of hatred from the left but when it comes from the right it is mean spirited and angry.
Quite frankly, I am done with this. Bye.
Happy EASTER-I hope you have time off to spend with your family....
C-CS
Tim: You seem compelled to defend yourself against Chuck. I wonder why.
I've lived in France. You're right...you'd live there if, and only if, you were rich, 'cause you would not put up with its filth and 18th century comman man ways.
Joe why do you feel compelled to jump in? Chuck is just being his typical hater self calling Depp a piece of shit, and telling me I'm full of shit. I'm not defending myself to Chuck, because I didn't do anything out of line. This exchange happened days ago and when Chuck said he was done with this I let it go. Chuck says he'd be just as rude face to face. So he's really just got a chip on his shoulder about something that probably has nothing to do with me or Depp.
When did you live in France? In the 60's? I have not been there since the 80's, but my daughter was there 3 years ago and enjoyed it very much. Besides, there is plenty of filth and backwards people right here in America.
I don't get this hatred of France just because they don't rubber stamp everything America wants to do globally. They are a proud country. They can be persuaded, but you can't dictate to them.
Tim, again - go back and read our comments.
Chuck ? Sounds like you're the one filled with hatred.
Chuck is just being his typical hater self
So he's really just got a chip on his shoulder
Who is attacking who? Give me an instance in which I have attacked you. This has never been about you.
You go ahead and believe your little fantasy about the right being full of hatred.
Chuck said-"You guys are so full of shit."
I assume you are addressing me and possibly Ducky.
Whatever Chuck. SR was just saying he liked the movie and right away you attack Depp for not passing your conservative litmus test. I say that's a silly reason to not see a good movie and you turn the guns on me.
if Rush or Beck were in a movie it would not be a problem for you?
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Can they act. Other than passing beer farts I haven't seen much in the way or performance from them.
Took my daughter (birthday), and family to see Alice last Saturday. As is typical, I dozed for about a 1/2 hour during the show, but the fam seemed to enjoy it. Depp made the hatter quite endearing, and the FX were pretty cool, but I've never really seen the relevance in the story.
Hope all is well with you, SR.
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